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Adding Wikifunctions to the sister project's list

Hi all! Is it possible to add Wikifunctions to the list of sister projects? Thanks in advance! Sannita (WMF) (talk) 14:11, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Support I looked into implementing this, but it seems to be a rabbit hole of many nested templates. Perhaps @AntiCompositeNumber: could implement it, since it looks like they set up the system? It seems logical to replace mediawiki with wikifunctions to keep a 4x3 array of links. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 08:58, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mike Peel, Sannita (WMF) Sure, it's possible. The complicating factor, as always, is that Commons has about 133 main pages, not just one. These pages are largely not standardized, with many not showing the same list of sister projects. I got through migrating a few dozen to use {{Sisterprojects layout}} before I got bored and found better things to do, User:AntiCompositeNumber/sisterprojects has the list. If you want to just change it on the English Main Page, then you can change |mw-name=, |mw-desc=, |mw-logo=, and |mw-link= on {{Sisterprojects-en}}. There's no need for the parameter names to match the actual link/content as long as you set all 4, there are multiple main pages that do that for sorting reasons. Changing it on every main page that uses {{Sisterprojects layout}} is a bigger task, and changing every main page that doesn't use the template an even bigger one. I can change the template if there's multilingual consensus to do so, but I don't really have the time to copy-paste translations into templates these days. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 22:52, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AntiCompositeNumber: Thanks for the background. Why can't we simplify this to just use a single template, and use existing translations from translatewiki.net? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:58, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mike Peel Some main pages use localized logos, some use language-specific sort orders, both of which make a single template more complex. Translations as MediaWiki messages would work, but using the Translate extension wouldn't because of the need for page protection. When I was working on this I did not seek consensus to significantly change the main pages and was trying to keep it as non-controversial as possible. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 23:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adding recently promoted quality images?

At Commons:Quality Images we have around 100 photos being promoted every day: could we highlight these on the main page? I can set up a bot script that will auto-update a list of selected images to show, perhaps on an hourly basis, and I've set up a demo of how it could look like at User:Mike Peel/Main Page. Thoughts? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 09:03, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Support This is a great idea, Mike. One thing I miss in Commons is to make great images more relevant and visible, so we can attract more photographers. I would add a link to the Quality Images section, so people know that this exists. Theklan (talk) 09:07, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Support I also support this. --Robert Flogaus-Faust (talk) 10:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mike Peel, I don't oppose but this creates a lot more space towards right bottom on my screen. Currently it is meagre and I don't worry - is there a solution? Perhaps move Participating part around? ─ Aafī (talk) 12:58, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Moved over to the right in the demo, does that look better? I think there needs to be a more general refresh of the homepage, including reducing text, but that's a topic for another day. ;-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:52, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Support A good initiative in my eyes, too. Poco a poco (talk) 13:19, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Support, this looks great and it will be really nice to have more frequently updating content. But agree it might be sensible to move the Participating section to the right column for balance, especially for when we don't have something like WLE running. the wub "?!" 13:48, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


 Support It's long overdue to make the Main page more interesting and lively. However, I oppose only new quality images being featured which biases it toward recently promoted images and excludes previous ones while not making use of other things that could be used to identify high-quality images to show there. Also it would be nice if it was changing the image every few seconds with there being a pause button as well as slideshow buttons. Please make it show the subject (as on Commons:Quality images) with a link to the relevant category for every image (it could be shown on hover like the file-title). Prototyperspective (talk) 22:26, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Prototyperspective: I have in mind a practical way to implement this while QICbot does the work of promoting the new quality images, and changing things every hour is feasible. I have no idea how to include all quality images ever, nor how to update them here every few seconds. If you do know how to do that, please do so? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:05, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There’s a mode="slideshow" for galleries, and I think mw.GallerySlideshow could be called from Common.js or a default gadget to display the next image every few seconds. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 12:37, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps on an hourly basis, but please not on the basis of seconds! [I'm sometimes working on bandwidths near 20 kB/sec..., and besides, my carbon footprint is already large enough..] R. J. Mathar (talk) 08:22, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the benefit of this would be that one could open the Main page and see many images rather than just one that is featured, which would make the page much more interesting and versatile to people's diverse interests. The two ways for that would be to click the arrows to see the next image or to leave the page and open and see the next image after a while (40 seconds maybe enough to read the caption) which would make people become aware of the arrow buttons which they may start to use a while thereafter.
Nothing else is dynamic on the frontpage except if there is an animated gif as motd and it would get WMC more users, raise awareness of its high-quality contents, and get its contents more exposure. I don't know if it's possible to check for slow Internet connection and only load further images for not super slow bandwidth. Lots of websites have slideshows and I think it loads only a scaled down version, not the full resolution. The carbon footprint note is beside the point, it would cause a bit more traffic but not extra emissions and in that regard is if anything a distraction, just like discussions about smartphone recharging are when a year worth of recharging is compensated by avoiding one <50 km car drive, that people still widely frequently engage in, and a miniscule percentage of people's spent monthly carbon budget.
Is there a way to make the slideshow only show for nonslow Internet connections? Also it would need to be lazy loading so the next image is only loaded a few seconds before the next image is shown. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't Template talk:Main Page Template redirect to here?

I just came across Template talk:Main Page Template - shouldn't that redirect to here? to keep conversations together? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:36, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Support Yes, it makes sense. Yann (talk) 19:46, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The template is used on pages other than the English main page, and the various language main pages traditionally have been managed at least somewhat separately. This means that there is wide variation between the main pages, even among all the main pages that use the template. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 22:53, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add space in caption of MOTD

{{Edit request}} A space should be added in the caption for today's MOTD, between "Spoon" and "an", because as of now they look like a singe word (Spoonan).

Should maybe have asked there, but probably no one would have noticed. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 14:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Yann (talk) 19:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MOTD caption

The caption says: Eqi glacier calving filmed in slow motion I suggest that the word "filmed" is superfluous and potentially wrong. The video plays in slow motion. Either way, one fix could be to omit that word. Schwede66 04:12, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Thanks @Schwede66. I have omitted the word in English caption. It doesn't make any sense to me either. It also has cs, fr and uk translations currently available, but I don't know any of these languages, for locating this specific word and removing it. Anyways, thanks. signed, Aafi (talk) 04:48, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Prototyperspective

I will make several edit requests in this thread (separately so they can be discussed individually).
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The page says Please use the search box at the top of this page or the links to the right. Feel free to subscribe to our syndicated feeds. but on mobile, which by now could well be how the majority of people land on this page by now, the links are not "on the right" but down.

Please change it so that it says "further down" on the mobile site (I think there already is something that does change the content depending on whether it's the mobile site) and link to that section with Template:Visible anchor (or something similar) so that the user can just jump to it to see what is meant. Being able to jump to/highlight the section is very useful for people who find the page confusing and don't want to search around to find what is meant. I mean {{vanchor|Content}} and [[#Content|the links to the right]] which should render as Content and the links to the right. I think the Content box is the most useful thing of the entire page and a bit buried by all the other tiles and texts. Prototyperspective (talk) 17:44, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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