Template talk:PD-old-auto

Next year

English: In Russia, a normal copyright term ends 70 years from the 1st of January of the year following the year of the author's death (citation from Civil Code, part IV: "Исключительное право на произведение действует в течение всей жизни автора и семидесяти лет, считая с 1 января года, следующего за годом смерти автора."). So for an author who died in 1959, the term would end on January 1st, 2030.

For an author who died in 1939, if a month less than the current one is specified, this template will show {{PD-old}}, although the copyright may not have expired in countries where the term is "70 years since January 1st of the year following…" yet.

So, with works in Russia, for 1939, use {{PD-old-auto|1940}}. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikid77 (talk • contribs) 05:57 2010-04-30 (UTC)

Esperanto: En Ruslando aŭtorrajtoj ordinare estingiĝas post 70 jaroj ekde la 1-a de januaro de la jaro sekvanta la jaron de la morto de la aŭtoro (citaĵo el la kvara parto de la civila kodo: "Исключительное право на произведение действует в течение всей жизни автора и семидесяти лет, считая с 1 января года, следующего за годом смерти автора."). Do, se aŭtoro mortis en 1959, liaj aŭtorrajtoj estingiĝus je la unua de januaro, 2030.

Ĉe aŭtoro mortinta en 1939, se estas indikita monato kun numero malpli granda ol tiu de la nuna, tiu ĉi ŝablono montros {{PD-old}} (70), kvankam la rajtoj probable ankoraŭ ne estingiĝis en landoj kie ili estingiĝas "post 70 jaroj ekde la 1-a de januaro de la jaro sekvanta…"

Do, en Ruslando, se aŭtoro mortis en 1939: {{PD-old-auto|1940}}. — La komenton aldonis, sen subskribo, Wikid77 (diskuto • kontribuoj) 05:57 2010-04-30 (UTC)

--AVRS (talk) 15:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

• I amended the example to use year "|1940}". -Wikid77 (talk) 05:58, 30 April 2010

• Thank you. But, though it was an example, you sentence looked like it was a part of my message. Fixed, I hope. --AVRS (talk) 11:44, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

That issue is not specific to Russia. In fact, it is a requirement of the Berne convention (article 7, part (5)[1]) that the month of death isn't relevant and the terms expire on 1 January. I think all month-related code should be removed from the template. Peter Alberti (talk) 14:58, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Category:PD Old auto: no death date

If no death date is specified, then the template just defaults to {{PD-old-70}} and quietly adds the file to Category:PD Old auto: no death date. There should probably be a much more visible notice if someone forgets to specify the death year. Currently, we have over 3000 files without a death year. --Stefan4 (talk) 22:54, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

conversion to use PD-old-auto/core

Jarekt, your conversion seems to have broken the categorization into Category:Author died more than 70 years ago public domain images, etc. The direct PD-old-X templates have a <includeonly>{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|File|[[Category:Author died more than 80 years ago public domain images]]}}</includeonly>, which your edit doesn't seem to be reproduce. —RP88 (talk) 04:01, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Now that I look closer, I don't know if anyone was relying on that functionality of PD-old-auto (since it doesn't appear to have been implemented by PD-old-auto-1923 & 1996), so maybe the fact that the behavior has changed isn't going to break anything. —RP88 (talk) 04:14, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

That was the intention, so now files using {{PD-old-70}} are listed in Category:Author died more than 70 years ago public domain images and files using {{PD-old-auto}} are listed in Category:PD-old-70, Category:PD-old-80, etc. Ideally we can move them from using {{PD-old-70}} to {{PD-old-auto}}. --Jarekt (talk) 13:21, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Audio files

A notice should be added to this template to indicate that it is not compatible with most sound recordings. See en:CLASSICS Act.  Mysterymanblue  23:42, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

• w:CLASSICS Act is part of United States law, but this template is unsuitable for determining the copyright status in the United States. It is only useful for determining the copyright status in other countries.

In the special case where the work was published during the lifetime of the author, the work is only in the public domain in the United States if it was published more than 95 years ago or if the publisher didn't comply with copyright formalities. However, this is not dependent on the lifetime of the author.

This copyright tag makes reference to a work and an author, but in most countries sound recordings are protected under neighbouring right and aren't considered to be a work. The one who made the sound recording isn't always considered to be an author either. Also, the copyright term tends not to depend on someone's lifetime. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:42, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

@Stefan2: My apologies, you're absolutely right! I meant to put this discussion on a different template talk page.  Mysterymanblue  18:04, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

1928

If person died before 1928, a PD in US tag should be automatically applied. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 21:56, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

No. This template does not check if the work was published during the lifetime of the author, which is what determines the copyright status in the United States. --Stefan2 (talk) 06:49, 27 June 2023 (UTC)